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Say It Ain't So, John

by: Stranahan

Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 12:28:39 PM PDT




(Note: I've been banned from DailyKos for writing about the John Edwards scandal. This post is a direct report of what I wrote there, for archival purposes - because some of it deals with the Kossack's reactions in comments, parts of it may not make sense.

I'll do an original post here in the next week.

Thanks to MSOC for supporting freedom of discussion by hosting these.)

Before I dive in, let me get the 'objectivity' thing out of the way. As a citizen journalist whose main claim to fame is producing satirical comedy, I can be upfront about my political leanings. I'm a recovering libertarian and currently I'm a registered Democrat who is excited to be voting for Barack Obama in November. I like John Edwards and up until a few days ago, he would have been my first choice for Vice President on an Obama ticket. I'm far from Puritan - anything two or more consenting adults want to do is fine by me. I also think it's obvious a person's sexual life doesn't keeps them from being an effective politician.

I'm judging this situation using two standards; 1) what's the truth? 2) how's it going to play out in the media?


Stranahan :: Say It Ain't So, John


The truth is that I believe anyone who looks into the John Edwards / Rielle Hunter affair story will see that Edwards has, at best, acted in a very suspicious manner for over a year now. When the Larry Craig story was breaking, I didn't buy his particular line of bullshit and I don't buy Edwards's either after I've spent the last couple of days Googling with my wife. (That's not as dirty as it sounds.) At first, I was skeptical of the National Enquirer story catching Edwards leaving the Beverly Hills Hotel at 2:45am because there were no pictures and the tabloids aren't reliable. Now it turns out that Edwards was at the hotel, so was Ms. Hunter, and that he when he saw reporters he hid in the bathroom until security guards came and got him.

I got more suspicious after reading a story on The Huffington Post from last September by Sam Stein detailing the weird story of some short webisodes about John Edwards that mysteriously were pulled off the internet. Read it yourself here and fold it into the mix of the current allegations.

Let's go with the assumption that Edwards is innocent for a moment; he didn't have the affair so the baby isn't his. If he didn't do anything wrong then it seems like he'd have good reasons to stop the rumors. A DNA test months ago would have ended all speculation about the paternity of the baby. Isn't that a better, less suspicious move than pulling down all the videos that Rielle Hunter helped produce about him for his campaign? And if there are rumors and you're innocent, WHY go visit the subject of those rumors at a hotel and leave at 2:45 in the morning? Why hide in the bathroom when reporters catch you leaving? These actions don't make any more sense to me than Craig's 'wide stance / dropped my toilet paper' defense did.

How's it going to play out? It seems to me that this is going to be a tsunami-sized scandal for the Democratic Party and right now the coming typhoon of press coverage is close to breaking. We're at the point of calm before the big waves hit but there are signs of the impending deluge. Jay Leno is making jokes about it. Perez Hilton is on the story. The mainstream media is fairly quiet but the most ominous silence right now is from the progressive blogosphere.

The progressive blogosphere is ignoring this story at its own peril because it's going to be big. At this moment, there's a weird state of denial about the entire thing. As of 4pm Saturday, nothing at all on TalkingPointMemo.com. DailyKos did a dismissive post making fun of the Enquirer. FireDogLake? Nothing. Americablog? Nada. These are some of my favorite blogs, by the way.

The Huffington Post has at least hovered about the edges of the story as it's been unfolding. There have been a couple of half-hearted, nothing-to-see-here blogs but also news reports on the latest events. A blog by John McQuaid said that there's no "physical evidence a la Bill Clinton." Well, there's a baby. Not a stained dress left to hang in the closest for a few months but a real cooing, smiling little baby who I assume looks adorable on camera and probably has nice hair. That lil' tyke is stuffed full of DNA, too. Cute little DNA.

Despite what some people are going to say, this is news. A former Senator and Vice Presidential candidate who was running for President less than six months ago and is now on the short list for Vice President has an long affair during the campaign and fathers a child, covers it up, and then is caught at a hotel with the mother of the child. News! Oh - and his wife made regular appearances on the campaign trail and as been diagnosed with cancer. If it were Mitt Romney, you'd be hearing peels of laughter and the satisfying smacking sound of Merlot- and Starbucks-fueled high fives coming from the nearest blue state. Would it have made the progressive blogs? C'mon, of course it would...with funny pictures and as many self-satisfied comments as you can shake a Macbook Air at.

It's a juicy story that has so many elements that are easy hooks for those short segments on cable news where two people argue while the news anchor asks softball questions. Here's a quick list of all the story angles I can think of just off the top of my head.

John Edwards Matters He's been the conscience of the Democratic Party and a compelling presence speaking out on the growing gap between rich and poor. If he wasn't going to be Vice President, most Democrats wanted him somwhere in an Obama cabinet.

Video Clips Galore Cable news loves showing video clips, usually in looping montages. Those webisodes that Hunter made that were taken down? They look flirty and suspicious in light of the alleged affair.

It's Recent The Edwards affair happened during the primary campaign. This isn't ancient history. What if he's WON the primary? Would he really have taken the nomination and handed the race to McCain?

Primary Revisionism Will the affair change the way we look back on the primary? Why did Edwards drop out of the race so quickly? Why did Edwards not endorse anyone until his endorsement was a moot point? Endless debates will ensue.

DNA The press loves any story with DNA. Drama! DNA test refusals. Acceptance. Test goes out. What will happen? It's like Montel Williams but it takes weeks!

Democratic Convention in Denver happening soon. Will Edwards speak? Will he appear at all? What about Elizabeth? Oh, the drama. You'll see.

"How could he do that to his sick wife?" This whole thing doesn't play well with women voters. Or women non-voters. Or men.

"Should we care about politician's sex lives?" Whatever your answer, that's a hook for the press. As soon as the story reaches a big tipping point, the mainstream press will question the story.

"Liberal media bias" - here's the big one. Republicans have had a lot of embarrassing, juicy sex scandals of their own lately and boy, do they want some payback. It doesn't look good that the Los Angeles Times banned bloggers from discussing the story. Where's the Times investigation - seems like the story is in their backyard. And that silence you hear from the mainstream press right now? The GOP is going to "play the refs" and jump all over the media for not reporting or investigating this story. The media will eventually break down and do what they do - saturate us with the story they missed just to prove how unbiased they really are.

Lauren and I are organizing the information we've found just by doing some internet research ourselves and for what it's worth, we'll posting it on my blog at Stranahan.com. If you're part of the progressive blogosphere, don't put your head in the sand and hope this goes away because I don't think it will. Don't leave the reporting to Fox and the tabloids. Investigate it yourself. Talk about it, write about it. Disagree or agree but don't just dismiss it because there's too much to just dismiss. If Edwards made a series of personal errors here, at least it should be his friends and allies who help him transition into the next phase of his life. Please make me wrong on this...there's too much at stake.


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--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

So, another one bites the dust at DKos for (6.00 / 4)


"speaking of things of we don't wish spoken."

Shocker, that.

That so few people there seem to grasp the supreme irony of DKos's "disappearing" people who say shit it doesn't want said actually does shock me. A blog chock fulla people who rail about the Bush Administration's evisceration of the Constitution and free speech... and a tiny percentage of them rear up their heads every month and say, "Wait a minute..." While the rest of them continue to act EXACTLY like their right wing blogger counterparts.

Sad.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


When I read this the other day (6.00 / 1)
this was thing that really jumped out at me:

I got more suspicious after reading a story on The Huffington Post from last September by Sam Stein detailing the weird story of some short webisodes about John Edwards that mysteriously were pulled off the internet. Read it yourself here and fold it into the mix of the current allegations.

I remember reading about that, at the time. It was completely bizarre and one of those nagging questions that may well be answered now.

National Enquirer... Kossacks (and others) dismiss them at their peril. Yes, it's a tabloid. Yes, they traffic in sleaze. But the sleaze they report is also usually true. Else they would be successfully sued a whole lot more often than they are. They've actually done some good reporting; most famously on OJ Simpson.

"What fresh hell is this?" -- Dorothy Parker


he was autobanned. (0.00 / 0)
had over twenty consecutive comments in hidden comments, along with others before that.
Stop making it seem like Markos banned this idiot. He was banned by the TU's and the damn software. Markos doesn't give a shit about John Edwards or this moron.  

Which makes it better? (6.00 / 1)


The autobanning software is banning by mob rule.

IWith a group as big as Dkos, Markos doesn't have to lift a finger to keep it under control -- just disseminate the party line and the sheep do the work for him.

Pitiful.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
It is the inherent flaw of democracy (6.00 / 4)
Which our founding fathers fully recognized even before the ink was dry on the constitution. The bill of rights became the mechanism which sought to protect the weakest among us from the tyranny of the majority. Few social constructs, blogs included, provide that safeguard.

I have little opinion on the Edwards issue. To use a sports analogy, its as if teams 3rd or 4th best player had a season ending injury during the preseason. Whether surgery can restore him to full value remains to be seen, but for this season he's out. He will not be a factor. As disappointed as I am, it is time to move on.

But what is more important at this point, is that this discussion can occur here, for those interested. We are not burdened by that inherent flaw of democracy.  

to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance .  G. Washington


[ Parent ]
THANK you. (7.67 / 3)


I get much more pissed off by people trying to shout down an uncomfortable conversation than by the conversation itself.

If it's a worthless enough topic, it will die off of its own accord without being shivved by eager assassins.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
What's more... (6.00 / 1)


For those who will leap up and accuse me of hypocrisy because I wasn't as ENTHUSIASTIC about the whole "Markos worked for the CIA" hoopla...

First, I am distinctly UNenthusiastic about this...

Second, that CIA hoopla had its day... and was thoroughly investigated and re-investigated and found utterly... dull and pointless. People want to keep whipping the dead horse, fine -- but not on my front page.

Third, if this IS investigated and found without merit, I'll be first in line celebrating, because I am a HUGE FUCKING JOHN EDWARDS FAN.

--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.


[ Parent ]
Can you possibly show me (6.00 / 1)
where it was implied that Markos banned him? All I read is that he was banned and some statements on how this was received by kossacks. If it says somewhere that Markos, himself, banned him, I've missed it.

Autobanning... heinous. I've said it before. I'll say it again. It's like Markos handed everyone cyber torches and pitchforks. Some of the most sickening displays I've seen on that site are when the kossacks round up the mob to troll rate someone out of existence. What an embarrassment that place is. A "left wing" site that races to silence people who make them the teensiest bit uncomfortable.



"What fresh hell is this?" -- Dorothy Parker


[ Parent ]
The only scumbags who get autobanned. (3.00 / 2)
Are scumbags, period.  who post bullshit, slander, libel. Or sexist bullshit. Or racist bullshit.

This maroon did not get banned for his first piece of shit diary stating that John cheated on EE.

He did not get banned the second time he posted his  bullshit.

He did not get banned the third time he posted his slime.

Finally, when he posted the same shit yet again, but this time wrote that he had IRREFUTABLE facts that JE cheated on EE, he was finally fucking banned for his ashholishness slime.

And you have a problem with that? Whatever.  


[ Parent ]
You may convince me yet. (0.00 / 0)


--7.88, --6.56      If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution.

[ Parent ]
Like most dkos apologists (6.00 / 1)
you have mangled the facts. I've read every one of those diaries, starting with the one he posted on HuffPo. Nowhere does he claim that Edwards is guilty. His point is that it's a story that isn't going to go away -- unless Edwards addresses it and disposes of it -- and it would be better stop sticking our heads in the sand. But, I know how easy it is to get sucked in by false narratives and straw men when kossacks go into a feeding frenzy. All logic and reading comprehension skill goes right out the window.

And, seriously, sexist bullshit gets people banned?!!! Are you fucking kidding me? Pie war? Ever hear of it? Seriously, dude. You're too funny.

"What fresh hell is this?" -- Dorothy Parker


[ Parent ]
No Worries (6.00 / 1)
I found out the Kos crowd sucked about two years back.

It's a tightly controlled omnipotent crowd (or so they think) .............

Smashed Frog


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